[dsdl-comment] Fwd: can you post to dsdl-comments ?

Is the list owner reading this list?
The joining instructions seem unclear to say the least?

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Carlisle <davidc@nag.co.uk>
Date: 17 Nov 2007 21:16
Subject: Re: can you post to dsdl-comments ?
To: dave.pawson@gmail.com

me> seems like I can now post.

or rather I can't post. I must have misread the archive, I still seem to be
blocked.

the following isn't on
http://lists.dsdl.org/dsdl-comment/2007-11/
so I assume it wasn't sent.

could you forward this for me?

Date: 16 Nov 2007 22:53:58 +0000
From: David Carlisle <davidc@nag.co.uk>
To: martin@is-thought.co.uk
CC: dsdl-comment@dsdl.org
In-reply-to: <83F2DA0372D243C6ABAF780FB6D343A7@martinsPC>
Subject: Re: [dsdl-comment] Re: Entities for XML

> I posted your message to the SC34WG1 mailing list, which unlike W3C
> committees is, in the spirit of ISO, a public site.

a publicly archived list to which I can apparently not post. I thought
perhaps it was just subscribers can post, however a subscribe message I
sent to the -request list has had no response as far as I can see.
I was not (and am not) pleased to be publicly accused of theft on a
forum in which I have no possiblity of responding.

However:

> I apologise for going over the top at

apology accepted.

> I still see red when I see the whole contents of a standard (or any
> other publication) regurgitated without a word of acknowledgement,

I repeat that essentially _only_ you had sen that. You chose to post a
private mail to a public list thus making the document public.

> it is still a slight on the likes of Anders Berglund to cite non-ISO
> standards such as Unicode and yet say nothing about the ISO in iso...

I can only only assume you neither read my covering letter or the
document. My stated preference was that the document became the
(second) draft update of ISO 9573-13. If it _were_ an ISO document with an
ISO (or shared ISO/W3C) copyright then all the talk of copyright
infringement is irrelevant. I didn't think I had authority to put an ISO
copyright on it so I put on the w3c one and mailed you asking if you and
ISO was still on board. At which point you fly off at a tangent...

So it seems that it now won't be a joint ISO/W3C publication which is a
shame as so I'll change the FPI to use the non-ISO form, and add a
non-normative reference to ISO: 9573-13 (not that that is a readily
available publication)..

> and that you will seek ISO's permission for the
> promotion of their standards as a significant part of a W3C standard.

No permission is needed. Why do think it is?

David

As before I ask that you forward this reply to the list if this message
is blocked from the list (despite te fact that it is CC'ed to that
address).

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