[dsdl-comment] Re: Fwd: can you post to dsdl-comments ?

Hi,

Le dimanche 18 novembre 2007 à 07:41 +0000, Dave Pawson a écrit :
> Is the list owner reading this list?

More or less depending on ml...

> The joining instructions seem unclear to say the least?

David is subscribed to this list and h acan post but mail server is
using an antispam service that has blacklisted the mail server used by
this list and he was not receiving any mail sent by the list server.

<rant
see-also="http://eric.van-der-vlist.com/blog/1696_Non_content_based_antispam_sucks.item">These services that pretend to know if a server sends spam or not without relying on any reliable source are really evil and should be forbidden.</rant>

I have rerouted the mails to his attention through another server and he
should now receive the messages from this list.

Eric

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Carlisle <davidc@nag.co.uk>
> Date: 17 Nov 2007 21:16
> Subject: Re: can you post to dsdl-comments ?
> To: dave.pawson@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
> me> seems like I can now post.
>
> or rather I can't post. I must have misread the archive, I still seem to be
> blocked.
>
> the following isn't on
> http://lists.dsdl.org/dsdl-comment/2007-11/
> so I assume it wasn't sent.
>
> could you forward this for me?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Date: 16 Nov 2007 22:53:58 +0000
> From: David Carlisle <davidc@nag.co.uk>
> To: martin@is-thought.co.uk
> CC: dsdl-comment@dsdl.org
> In-reply-to: <83F2DA0372D243C6ABAF780FB6D343A7@martinsPC>
> Subject: Re: [dsdl-comment] Re: Entities for XML
>
>
> > I posted your message to the SC34WG1 mailing list, which unlike W3C
> > committees is, in the spirit of ISO, a public site.
>
> a publicly archived list to which I can apparently not post. I thought
> perhaps it was just subscribers can post, however a subscribe message I
> sent to the -request list has had no response as far as I can see.
> I was not (and am not) pleased to be publicly accused of theft on a
> forum in which I have no possiblity of responding.
>
> However:
>
> > I apologise for going over the top at
>
> apology accepted.
>
>
> > I still see red when I see the whole contents of a standard (or any
> > other publication) regurgitated without a word of acknowledgement,
>
> I repeat that essentially _only_ you had sen that. You chose to post a
> private mail to a public list thus making the document public.
>
> > it is still a slight on the likes of Anders Berglund to cite non-ISO
> > standards such as Unicode and yet say nothing about the ISO in iso...
>
> I can only only assume you neither read my covering letter or the
> document. My stated preference was that the document became the
> (second) draft update of ISO 9573-13. If it _were_ an ISO document with an
> ISO (or shared ISO/W3C) copyright then all the talk of copyright
> infringement is irrelevant. I didn't think I had authority to put an ISO
> copyright on it so I put on the w3c one and mailed you asking if you and
> ISO was still on board. At which point you fly off at a tangent...
>
> So it seems that it now won't be a joint ISO/W3C publication which is a
> shame as so I'll change the FPI to use the non-ISO form, and add a
> non-normative reference to ISO: 9573-13 (not that that is a readily
> available publication)..
>
> > and that you will seek ISO's permission for the
> > promotion of their standards as a significant part of a W3C standard.
>
> No permission is needed. Why do think it is?
>
> David
>
> As before I ask that you forward this reply to the list if this message
> is blocked from the list (despite te fact that it is CC'ed to that
> address).
>
>
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