[dsdl-discuss] Re: Synchronization of the OASIS RELAXNGCompactSyntax and the ISO/IEC19757-2 AMENDMENT 1: Compact Syntax

Could we have this subject on the agenda for the SC34 plenary?

I did submit a paper on coordination of different versions of standards
both with SC34 and then in other organizations. The idea is that we
produce as few slightly differing versions of a standared as
possible.and also that we get the standards published in the different
organizations as possible.

I offered the follwing observations in N735:

Now that the ODF standard has been approved as IS 26300, how do we
proceed with the next versions of the standard?

The DIS ballot resulted in comments of about 20 pages, as contained in
SC34 N0728. These comments needs to be addressed, and most likely the
final IS 26300 will be changed from the ballotted document. Thus there
will be two different standards for ODF, the OASIS standard and the
ISO/IEC standard. This is not at good situation.

What can be done about this?

I see 3 scenarios:

   1. Leave it as is, and OASIS can go forward with the revision and
submit their standard as PAS for the next edition. This will result in a
number of different standards from OASIS and ISO, and make implementers
a bit confused on which standard to implement.

   2. OASIS can take the resulting ISO standard back in their process,
and hope that an OASIS ballot will not resolve in changes to the new
OASIS standard. This will establish one standard, but it is likely that
the changes to the 1.0 standard will be small, and that it will lead to
market confusion which version of the standard to implement. It is also
possible that the OASIS process introduces new changes.

On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 09:28:17PM -0500, G. Ken Holman - ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 34 Secretariat Manager wrote:
> I'll be back in my office in the morning but I have a quick
> comment. I've been on the road teaching.
>
> At 2007-02-21 17:09 +0000, Martin Bryan wrote:
> >Sorry to keep on raising ogres to what you doubtless hoped was a "done
> >deal"
> >with ISO (for which many thanks) but while at first sight the ISO response
> >of:
> >
> >>SC 34 should send its comments to OASIS and have OASIS handle the defects.
> >
> >seems to clarify the situation from WG1's point of view, it does not solve
> >the problem of the loose wording in Appendix A of the explanatory report
> >for
> >ODF, which states:
> >
> >> OASIS requests that any corrections of defects or errata
> >> from the JTC1 process be re-presented to the OASIS Technical Committee,
> >for
> >> handling and correction, which the Technical Committee will be pleased to
> >> publish in a manner coordinated with JTC1.
> >
> >What does "re-presented" mean to you here? To me it means that once any
> >defects have been "presented" to ISO as a formal defect report or
> >corrigenda
> >they should be submitted to OASIS for publication to their community at the
> >same time they are published by ISO.
>
> Well, OASIS does have a comment submission process ... I don't see
> anything wrong with comments coming from WG1 or SC34 or individual
> members to the ODF comment list.
>
> >I'm happy to abide by the ISO secretariate ruling, but am not sure where it
> >leaves us with other OASIS originated standards such as RELAX NG. For
> >example, what happens if WG1 asks SC34 to submit a defect report to OASIS
> >and OASIS choose to ignore the reported defect?
>
> I don't see RELAX-NG in the same boat ... it is not a PAS document
> ... as I recall (it was before I became Secretariat) it went through
> the entire JTC 1 process step-by-step and did not skip any step as a
> publicly-available submission. I'm of the opinion that all of the
> parts of DSDL are fully JTC 1 parts ... they all went through the
> standard development process. Therefore, there is no involvement in
> OASIS in its maintenance.
>
> As a new member of the OASIS TC for RELAX-NG, it is my understanding
> that new committee work was going to *promote* RELAX-NG, not modify
> it or maintain it. Maintaining DSDL ISO specifications happen within JTC 1.
>
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ken
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